Say No More.

Good and Plenty issue N05 has some rad content, this Say No More interview being part of that! I only realised when reading the interview the interview that this wasn’t the Say No More that I knew but a different band, so this is not to be confused with the LOR band Say No More.

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This interview was originally printed in Good and Plenty N05. I had never herd of Billingsgate before reading this interview, they only released two EP’s and the second one happened to be one of the first Victory records releases. Both have a hardcore sound of that era, with some youth crew values and sounds too, the second release “Reach Out” has a bit more of a metallic edge almost in a similar vein of Warzone.

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Night of The Living Dead.

What’s happened to deathrock/ horror punk?

Is it still a thing and I’m just missing it/ looking in the wrong places? I feel like it doesn’t really exist anymore, or has it really existed?

This is just me thinking out loud, I am in no way an expert or know a lot of information.

So The Misfits, the original the creators, then you get most notably The Undead, Screaming Dead, The Damned, T.S.O.L, Samhain, Graves, Son of Sam, AFI. There is obviously more too, a lot of these styles of bands come from ex Misfits members or people associated with Misfits. A handful of these get some or most of their fame from various connections to hardcore scenes so theres a reason why bands like The Misfits, The Damned, Samhain, AFI and Son of Sam are the most know or thats how it seems/ I see it. From the looks of it, the glory days of this genre start in the 80’s and die in the early 2000’s.

Why did this never carry on, people love horror right?

Later on I guess theres more nu metal/ metal bands like Slipknot, Murderdolls, Marilyn Manson shit like that, its that it? is that what it evolved into? Then expanding into things like witch house? I like some witch house stuff and i’m a fan of Ghost as much as the next dude but I want more, I want true horror punk/ deathrock.

I started to think of this because an old UK band called Send More Paramedics recently got an instagram account which made me re listen because it had been some time, fuck it still slaps! Haunting, Fast, hard, thrashy with breakdowns and guitar solos.

I love this band so much, they were amazing live too, dressed in full zombie get up with fake blood it was wild. They stood out because there wasn’t anything else like this at the time, playing along side or headlining above hardcore bands, it never seemed out of place when in reality it kind of was. These guys where probably the last horror punk band I knew about/listened too. They didn’t last that long if I remember correctly their last release was 2006, I remember seeing them a couple of times after that so they maybe died off 2009ish? reforming for a reunion in 2014. That was it. . . . .

Then recently while making some one x shot interviews I came across Ghouli, a band out of Richmond, Virginia with influences in some old school horror punk in the likes of The Misfits and T.S.O.L. It’s nice take on the horror punk sound while putting their own flavour into it.

Another band I cam across was Final Gasp, a side project made up of members from Antagonize, this is Samhain worship and its fucking amazing!

The hardcore world needs more bands like these! people always credit and even sometimes cover The Misfits but no one ever commits to horror punk, it’s a cool style of punk and hardcore world, are people too afraid to commit to genre you don’t have to go all out and dress up. . . . .I guess, do people find it too gimmicky? or is it not cool?, maybe there is more bands and I just don’t know about them?

Footnotes: All photos are pulled from the various discog’s pages, I do not own the right to any of them. Hit me up with good horror punk bands.


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Where are they now?

In modern hardcore there has been lots of bands come and go, lots of good bands come and go. Theres probably shit ones too but thats not what I’m here to talk about. It’s a shame when this happens, I understand people start projects all the time and never end up going back to them, thats the whole idea of a project I guess. Some bands release a couple of things and then just fade away this is probably due to being busy with other bands, it sometimes seems like people will start little side projects when their main band is getting big and plays bigger shows so they can still play smaller shows with other bands. This is a post dedicated to a ten bands that came and went and will probably never come back. Lots of “Democore” bands here.

I know there are so many bands that could be on this list from all eras of hardcore and I’m sure this won’t be the last time I do one of these.

Life of Reilly.

I remember there being quite a bit of hype around these guys on the Bridge 9 message board (RIP) I remember a demo or promo (people do promos now a days) then an EP. I think the chat was on the Lockin” Out page, I can’t remember why, maybe because it has a bit of LOC sound to it, with heavy early hardcore influences, it was a good band and this EP was great. But nothing else happened with the band and that was that.

Iron X Edge.

Two promos and a demo. Promo number one 2014 on edge day, I think I remember seeing them on some edge day show hence the promo. The demo would come in 2015, the another promo in 2016. From Boston Mass, no clue who was in the band. The first promo and the demo are better then the second promo, it’s fast in your face youth crew with a more militant style coming through, Judge but not as NYHC or as heavy. The 2016 promo is heavier and cleaner with the vocals sounding too tough guy, I just don’t think it’s as good. Although there is a more Abused sound coming through which is really cool and they even cover Loud and Clear on the second promo, maybe it’s just the production letting it down abit. I don’t think people was ready for this band at the time.

Whats Good.

A “Super group” out of California with members in  Soul Search, Violent Situation, Minority Unit, New Brigade, Twitching Tongues, Skinfather, Forced Order, Fury, Disgrace, Pocketknife, Enough Said, Creatures, and Precinct all of those apparently, a random mix that pretty much sounds nothing like any of them. This demo I guess came out on Back To Back records (RIP) man that was a great label! It was a four track tape it came out in 2014. They didn’t seem to take themselves too seriously which was good, it was fun and belonged on B2B it almost sounds like “LOC revival” (Coining that phrase) it’s a great demo, the vocals are unusual but I like them, guitar slides, breakdowns and sing alongs, good stuff.


2013 this is closest I’m getting to Lion of Judah (RIP) and in a blink of an eye, it was gone! One demo. It’s members of LOJ and it’s sound is very LOJ I was excited when this came out! It’s faster and less groovy than LOJ but it’s a different band so it has to be different in some way right. I don’t know if any physical copies exist, I think there was a shirt. Sell me Zoom merch!

Stand Point.

In 2017 Tom Pimlott of too many bands to name fame started a Youth Crew band in the vain of Uniform Choice and it was great! They released a demo through React Records and Quality Control and that was it! It’s a sound that not that many people go for which is sad because UC were so different from anything else Youth Crew from that era so it is a shame no one ever really takes that on as main inspiration. SP mixes early Youth of Today into the sound nicely as well. I thought this might have been the start of something but no, I thought it would have been more hyped since React released the demo and a shirt, then the demo sold out on QC, it’s annoying because apart from Insist their isn’t and hasn’t been a really good quality Youth Crew band in the UK in a long time.It’s not a cool enough genre of hardcore so no one cares enough about it. Bring back UK Youth Crew!

The X Force.

Why did it take until 2016 for a straight edge band to be called The X Force?

South Florida, Daniel-Vocals, Ian-Guitar, Jared-Bass, Cris-Drums whoever the fuck those guys are but their in the band. A demo then out, again not sure if physical copies are a thing. I fell like this band would have done better a couple of years later or even in this time of hardcore, 90’s straight edge worship but not too metallic, Undertow sounds. It’s a great demo, shame. The logo is really cool too.

Snail’s Pace.

WB/ Boston band released this demo on Lockin’ Out what a demo it was! Not sure who was in, because of the geography of the band there was probably a few familiar faces in it, backing vocals on a couple of tracks sound like Alex Russin and the fact Ned features on a track it would make sense for Alex to feature in the line up. Great band, had a demo on LOC why did this not go further? It has some old school NYHC sounds with some classic LOC vibes it’s great.

Not Afraid.

Remember True Colors? one of the best modern youth crew band from Antwerp well after they packed that in around 2010/ 2011ish I think, well they decided a couple of years later to start a new and Not Afraid was that band, it basically sounds like if all the members of TC got together to start a band that sounds primarily like Judge. Nothing not to like there! they released a promo and an LP it was among the last things Powered Records (RIP) along with a release on React also. Put out before Powered died along with NA, both are truly missed!. . . .Man I miss Justice.

Torn Away.

2018 demo 90’s melodic style hardcore, later Turning Point, some Stretch Arm Strong vibes as well with lots of emotional lyrics. I think one of the members moved away which is one of the reasons this never carried on, but this was it as far as I cam remember no shows, no nothing. I remember playing this a lot when it came out, it was quite different than anything in the UK at the time and I think they managed to recreate the style of hardcore they was doing well.

Up In Blue.

Coming out of Florida in 2018 these boys Chooch, Dave, Innie, Matias (whoever the fuck they are) released a demo through IOU Records. Good stuff, again I thought these would have done better or stayed around they had that modern hardcore sound going for them, but no, nothing more.

If anyone has any interesting information on any of these bands, feel free to drop me a line I’m always interested.